The mesichist elephant in the room

I went to the prayers down on Ido HaNavi two nights ago, and this is what I spied stuck up all over the lamp-posts close by:

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Because everytime I try to post this stuff up on the blog, it gets ‘whited out’ – in exactly the same way the Deep State whites out stuff about masons and Frankists – I am going to avoid using any defining labels in this post, that will clue-in the censorship bot, to see if that makes a difference.

Let’s see.

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Me being me, I ripped that sticker off, brought it home – and went to take a look at the website it’s advertising, called:

ani-maamin.co.il

I highly recommend you take a look at that website, you’ll learn a lot about the mesichist ‘elephant in the room’ that no-one can really talk about, without facing serious censorship and aggressive ‘push back’.

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Here’s a machine-translated screenshot:

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Assuming all this hasn’t already been ‘whited out’ by the Deep State censorship-bots, let’s click on ‘Number 11’ above, to see what happens next.

It brings us to this youtube video:

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If you understand Hebrew, I highly recommend you listen, and see how Torah sources are being twisted and abused all over the place, to back up the deceitful statement that:

“The rules of Jewish law state that [you know who] is the Melech HaMoshiach.”

Really?!

Do they really?!

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In case you think that this ‘twisting of Torah’ is a fringe phenomenon, let’s just go to Rav Ginsburgh’s site, for some clarification.

He’s got a whole Q+A up from 2024, on exactly the topic of ‘Moshiach’.

I highly recommend you take a look, HERE.

Snippet:

Q: Should we identify the Mashiach with a specific person? If so, does he have to be someone from this generation or can he be from the past?

A: In the Talmud, it is written that if Mashiach is from the living, he is so-and-so and if he is from the dead he is so-and-so. The example given of someone from the dead is Daniel and the example of someone from the living is Rebbe (Rabbi Yehudah Hanassi). The sages left this question open. If we try to find a Mashiach living now in this generation, we will have to work hard.

(Italics, mine.)

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While this quote makes it sound like Jewish law allows for the possibility that Moshiach ‘can come back from the dead’, that’s misleading for a number of reasons.

The original quote is from Sanhedrin 98b, you can see a useful discussion on the subject HERE, but this basically sums up the problem:

There is no source that someone proclaimed to be moshiach vadai can die and then come back to complete their mission as moshiach.

There is a notion that moshiach may be someone who has passed away.

The gemara quoted from Sanhedrin 98b does show someone who has passed away may be resurrected in order to be moshiach.

This should explain to you the distinction between someone being moshiach, dying, and then coming back (not valid) versus someone who has passed away being the moshiach (valid).

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Xtianity twisted the idea of the soul of ‘Moshiach’ coming back in each generation, into the idea that Yoshki will come back again for his second term in office….(no, my bad, that’s Trump. Sorry.)

The Sabbateans then latched on to this idea to teach that the soul of ‘Shabtai Tzvi’ returns in every generation, anew, until it completes its mission as ‘moshiach’.

I don’t know, really, what’s going on with the people I can’t even type the name of, because otherwise this post will get totally ‘whited out’.

Although, more and more pieces of the puzzle are slotting into place, that links them squarely to the Sabbatean-Frankists.

But one thing I do know:

It’s time to address the mesichist elephant in the room.

Because, these guys have ‘branded’ Moshiach as a certain person, one of their own – and they aren’t about to give up on that brand, and the billion-dollar annual income spinning off from it, any time soon.

And it’s hard to believe that this isn’t contributing significantly, to delaying geula, and obscuring other candidates for Moshiach who actually a) descend son-after-son from King David and b) are still alive.

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6 replies
  1. Hava
    Hava says:

    The basis for figuring these things out always has to start from the Tana”ch. Do these guys have that? I don’t think so.

    It seems to me that people who believe that anyone can be Mashiah would say things like what Rivka has been writing against. However, the books of Shmuel haNavi (known as 1 Samuel and 2 Samuel) have the most direct source: the anointing of King David (1 Sam 16) and the promise that his kingdom would be forever (someone living will always qualify, so no dead people, especially those with no children following after them…), from his seed (son-after-son-etc.) (2 Sam 7).

    Rabbi M. M. Schneerson had NO CHILDREN. So, he couldn’t qualify even if he were from the tribe of Yehuda, from the seed of David, son after son, because his opportunity for heirs to the throne would have ended with him. It’s supposed to be “forever.”

    I thank God that the Tana”ch I derived my statements from, above, is in English and Hebrew. Not everyone in the world has that.

    Please let me know if anything here is incorrect, because I could have misunderstood what I read.

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    • Jude Abraham
      Jude Abraham says:

      Exactly. It also says clearly in Yeshayahu 53:10 that Mashiach shall see his physical seed.

      So any contender without a biological child is ruled out according to the verse.

      Reply

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